thw wts likes to play games with their statistics.
one interesting but truly tragic is the number of jwhovah's witnesses who commit suicie.. now i suspect that if a person commits suicide shortly before or after they are disfellowshipped then the elders would say that person wasn't a witness or that they had done something so terrible that they were too guilty to admit it and by their action of committing suicide they pretty much declared they were no longer a jw.. yup fancy talk to make sure any crap didn't fall on them.. so my question.. do you know of cases like this?
if so then can you answer a few more questions.. had this person been dfed or in real danger of being dfed or whatever the equivalent is if they were never baptized?.
I know of two. First was a young sister who hung herself and the second a former elder over guilt watching porn. Reading this thread has been a real a eye opener on how serious this problem is in this cult. Very sad. I hope this this thread will help the ones Still sitting on the fence.
Hope you are doing well Lady Lee. Still Totally ADD
one of the recent threads on the talk about the hailstone message got me to thinking.
the problem with putting out a message like that is what to do when nothing happens.
i have to think that somebody will be asking that question.
JeffT all I can say is when it comes to the wt. cult thinking on being doomed is (damn if you do and damn it you don't). Lol. Still Totally ADD
so this morning i'm walking to my office and there's the jws on their carts outside as usual.
and old sister, a brother in his 20s and an elder i instantly recognized from my jw days.
one of my best friends of about 20 years.. i genuinely just wanted to say hi as i havent seen him in 3 years.
Sorry Pale for how your old friend treated you. One thing you said so much for the new personality. My thinking is he does have that so called new personality. The personality of the wt cult. Very sad how he felt your life was bad since you left the cult. The cult mind can't wrap their minds around life can be good after leaving the cult. It's all about us against them mentality. You stood your ground and took the high road. Very good example to follow. Thank you for the story. Still Totally ADD
as an elder, i saw one child abuse situation involving a man who wanted to be an elder and had i believe 8 children.
he was not in our congregation when this all erupted.
he denied it and moved to another hall and unbelievably, that body of elders wanted to appoint him since they believed his entire family was lying about him.
In all three congregations I served as a elder I knew of several cases in each one. And I am sure the three other congregation I was in not as a elder had the same problem. Still Totally ADD
so i got my results in on sunday and my bloodline is mostly from great britain and italy and greece!
not what i expected at all but it does explain my love of italian and greek foods.😎.
minimus I had the same results about the italian and Greek but only about 7%. Like you two of my most favorite foods. OOPA STILL Totally ADD
terry's editorial on the pledge of allegiance_____.
can one child in a thousand actually define the word or give the meaning of "allegiance?
" can you--without stumbling around about it?give me a moment of your time, will you?first, in medieval times, wealthy landowners allowed peasants to cultivate their property as long as these pitiful souls made a pledge of fealty or allegiance to become a soldier for that lord of the manor if he needed to go to war against some imagined enemy.
Stuckinarut2 I never look at it that way before. Good illustration on this subject. Still Totally ADD
fellows.
finally find a place to share experience for jwers.
i am also a ex-jwer and left the ´truth´ on jan. 2018. i live and work in midt jylland in denmark.
WOW what a story.😲 Thank you. Still Totally ADD
does anyone else remember a brochure/ magazine from the early 80s with stories of demon possessed individuals and spiritism ?
i dont think i saw it around very long.
it had a story about some lady having her head snapped around by a demon.
Caves I seem to remember a Awake maz. with a real spooky picture of a demon on the cover page. We hated showing it to the public. Still Totally ADD
fellows.
finally find a place to share experience for jwers.
i am also a ex-jwer and left the ´truth´ on jan. 2018. i live and work in midt jylland in denmark.
Welcome Iam. We have a friend who moved to the US nine years ago from Denmark. She is such a breath of fresh air. Glad to have you on board and hope to here your experience on what woke you up. Take care. Still Totally ADD
i was wondering how exactly is it that illegals can get paid and be under the radar?
a business takes in cash.
at farms, construction, etc, most probably comes in from checks and credit.
It's been a broken system for a long time. Many jobs for them come from framing, construction and slaughter houses. Jobs most in this country will not do anymore because it hard work. This broken system has been supported by big business for a long time. My question is who is more responsible for this problem the illegal immigrants or the businesses that hire them? Even with normal home construction it very common to be paid under the table for your work no matter who you are. If everything was above board the cost of a new house would skyrocket. There is a unspoken underground economy that has been taking lace for along time. Still Totally ADD
